27. Joe Pug, The Working Songwriter

Songwriter and Podcast host Joe Pug (The Working Songwriter podcast) chats with the fellas about the process of songwriting, the difficulty of capturing peoples attention and the pros and cons of the paradigm shift in music.

Colter informs Hywel of who Ryan Seacrest is.

Peter asks Joe about dipping his pinky into 

Hywel bonds with Joe over playwriting.

Colter Longshore